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| + | On p. 23 Korff writes: | ||
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| + | <blockquote> "Later, when he [Billy] was arrested and charged by the police for thievery and forgery, he was ordered to serve six months at the Aarburg correctional facility in the town of Rheinau.” </blockquote> | ||
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| + | Critique: In Billy's autobiography contained in the ("Geisteslehre #1"), Billy states the following: "When anywhere a robbery or theft happened, the Police automatically seized me and accused me of the deeds I had never committed... ...I even signed Police reports accusing me of offenses I had not done." None of Meier's personal texts make mention of "forgery" as being one of the charges, and Korff's statement, as is, suggests Meier's guilt. | ||
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| + | <font color="ff0000">The evolution of Meier's contact notes</font> | ||
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| + | On p. 26 Korff writes: | ||
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| + | <blockquote> "What began as a simple series of "contacts," with the first allegedly occuring on January 28, 1975, soon evolved into a much more detailed and elaborate scenario complete with religious overtones." </blockquote> | ||
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| + | If one reads the contact notes of the first contact, one can read that a large part of the alleged first conversation with Semjase is about the subject of religion, so contrary to what Korff claims the "religious overtones" were not later introduced in the contact notes. | ||
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| + | <font color="ff0000">Error in translation</font> | ||
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| + | On p. 28 Korff writes that the translation of ''Züricher verblüfte Erich von Däniken : Ich filmte Besucher aus dem All" '' is "Zürich man amazes Erich von Däniken: I filmed Visitors and All". | ||
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| + | The correct translation is: "Zürich man amazes Erich von Däniken: I filmed visitors ''from outer space''". | ||
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| + | <font color="ff0000">Why the term "cult" is unfounded and misapplied</font> | ||
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| + | On p. 29 Korff writes: | ||
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| + | "Within the next two years Meier would transform both the farm and his informal metaphysical study group into his own private religious cult, complete with visitor’s parking! As of this writing, the situation remains unchanged, although the members of Billy Meier’s Semjase Silver Star Center (as it is now called) prefer not to think of themselves as a 'religious cult'." | ||
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| + | Critique: Defined by Random House's American College Dictionary: "cult n. 1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies. 2. an instance of an almost religious veneration for a person or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: a cult of Napoleon. 3. the object of such devotion. 4. Sociol. a group having an exclusive sacred idealogy and a series of rites centering around their sacred symbols."<br /> F.I.G.U.'s views on their non-affiliation and distancing from any religious, sectarian, sacred and god/Jesus/saint/personage-vernerating ideologies and practices are clearly outlined in their English publications “Our Manifesto” and "FIGU in a Nutshell" in addition to many other texts. Veneration of an extraterrestrial, person, object, obedience-demanding entity or any controlling force is contrary to their tenets and negates their basic principles as the “Free Community of Interests.” Korff’s repetitive labeling of F.I.G.U. as a “cult”, in addition to his overuse of the term “compound” in reference to F.I.G.U.'s Center, is unfounded, misapplied and appears to be an indoctrination tactic. | ||
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| + | <font color="ff0000">How fast Wendelle Stevens became a "believer"</font> | ||
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| + | On p. 30 Korff writes: | ||
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| + | <blockquote> "After spending four days at Meier's farm in Hinterschmidrüti, Stevens became convinced that the experiences of Meier had actually happened, that the disc-shaped craft photographed is really a UFO and that the case is legimate." </blockquote> | ||
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| + | Korff refers to pp. 27-28, of Stevens ''Preliminary Investigation Report''. If one reads those pages in Stevens' book, one will see that this statement has been taken out of context by Korff. Stevens didn't arrive at this conclusion after four days of investigating the case, but after 5 years of investigating the case. | ||
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| + | <font color="ff0000">The amount of contacts</font> | ||
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| + | On p. 37 Korff writes: | ||
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| + | <blockquote> "Between January 27, 1975, and August 18, 1991, Meier has had more than seven hundred contacts with aliens, most of which have been with a ‘Pleiadian female cosmonaut’ named Semjase (pronounced sem-YA-see)." </blockquote> | ||
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| + | Critique: In an information sheet released by F.I.G.U. in October, 1994, titled "Randolph Winters: New Lies, Misrepresentations, Errors and Intrigues from the USA", Meier states the following about his contact history: "Concerning the contact reports it must be stated that the 115th contact took place on October 19, 1978, and that Billy has since had 174 additional contacts. Of these 174 contacts, 135 were official and the basis for contact reports; 39 were of an unofficial nature and no contact reports were written on them. At this time, late 1994, 250 official contact reports are in evidence." "Seven hundred" may have been incorrectly heard, stated, or mis quoted. | ||
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| + | <font color="ff0000">How Meier took his photos/films</font> | ||
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| + | On p. 37 Korff writes: | ||
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| + | “Meier took his UFO photographs and 8mm films not only with the handicap of having just one arm, but did so by shooting most of them ‘from his right hip’ (since the viewfinder on his camera was broken).” | ||
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| + | Critique: Meier did not take his photographs “from his right hip” as stated by Korff, especially the 8mm movie camera used a tripod as support. This is an incorrect statement, whatever the source, since his photographing technique of holding the camera near his face is displayed in the video documentary ''The Meier Chronicles'' and the docu drama, ''Contact''. Also, p. 224 of Wendelle Stevens’ ''UFO... Contact from the Pleiades, A Supplementary Investigation Report'', 2nd paragraph states “... and he had to shoot his pictures without aiming and by guess "from the hip" so to speak.” This colloquialism is obviously not meant in the literal sense of "from his right hip." | ||
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| + | <font color="ff0000">"Meier saved Jesus from a beating one time"</font> | ||
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| + | On p. 38 Korff writes: | ||
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| + | <blockquote> "During one of these alleged time-travel adventures, he [Billy] met with Jesus Christ! Meier even saved Jesus from a beating one time. " </blockquote> | ||
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| + | Critique: It is documented by Meier that he met with Jmmanuel, a person whose name was changed to “Jesus Christ” by Paul years after the crucifixion. The personage, Jmmanuel, and his teachings, as presented in the book Talmud of Jmmanuel edited by Meier, differ greatly when compared to the historical Jesus portrayed in the New Testament and do not depict him as the “god-like” saviour of mankind that is attributed to him today (see also the book ''Celestial Teachings'' by James Deardorff, and his posting "A Refutation of...." herein under the chap. 2 heading.) An actual encounter between Meier and Jmmanuel, viewed in this light, does not seem as extraordinary as Korff makes it out to be, excluding, of course, the actual mechanics of time travel. Korff's statement concerning Meier saving Jmmanuel (Jesus) from a beating was footnoted in his book as originating from Randolph Winters, just as were many other footnotes of Korff's. This easily refutable fabrication is one of many lies distributed by self-proclaimed “Meier representatives” such as Winters. The only "beating" that ever took place during this specific time trip was when, according to the verbatim reports of Asket in 1956, Meier hit a fellow in the nose by the name of "Jitchi" for going into a state of panic during their trek to meet Jmmanuel. It's apparent this blow was not even close to a beating. Meier states the following in his writeup entitled ''A Truthful Rectification of Lies Based On Half-Truths and Twisted Information, Which Were Presented by Randolph Winters in a Compuserve UFO Forum Conversation on 1-29-95''<nowiki>: "Apparently, Winters' fantasies, his twisting of the information, and his inability to assimilate information he has gleaned from Meier's experiences are limitless; ..." It is a well-known and documented fact that Randolph Winters was neither endorsed by Billy or FIGU as being a representative of Meier, nor was he ever "sanctioned" to speak on Meier's behalf. In view of this, Korff's frequent use of Winters' statements cannot be regarded as corresponding to actual facts.</nowiki> | ||
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Shortcomings of Kal K. Korff's Spaceships of the Pleiades: The Billy Meier Story | |
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Kal K. Korff is one of the chief critics of Eduard "Billy" Meier. For about 20 years now, he has been attempting to prove that the case is a hoax. His second and most recent book on the case is Spaceships of the Pleiades: the Billy Meier Story, published by Prometheus Books in 1995. On this website you will find: On this page you wll find a table listing all (87) points of critique. This 87 points of critique can be devided in 46 examples of untruths, 17 examples of omissions of relevant data, 17 counter arguments against various claims by Korff and 7 examples of other failings. The points of critique are listed by chapter. If you want to find out more about a particular point of critique, click on the hypertext of interest in the "point of critique:" column in the table. |
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[#c1 Chapter 1: Eduard "Billy" Meier: The Man, the Claims ] [#c2 Chapter 2: The Undercover Trip to Switzerland] [#c3 Chapter 3: Genesis III's "Analyses" of Meier's Photographs. ] [#c4 Chapter 4: Conclusive Analyses of Billy Meier's "UFO" Photographs. ] [#c5 Chapter 5: Smoking Guns: Analyzing Meier's "Time-Travel" Photographs ] [#c6 Chapter 6: Analyses of Billy Meier's "Alien" Metal Samples] [#c7 Chapter 7: Other Meier "Evidence"]
CHAPTER 1: Eduard "Billy" Meier: The Man, the Claims (pp. 23-44) | ||
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| Korff on Meier's life and the history of the case |
[article.php?id=40&sn=1#1 -Omission of certain info about Meier's past] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=1#2 -The evolution of Meier's contact notes] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=1#3 -Error in translation] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=1#4 -Why the term cult is unfounded amd misapplied] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=1#5 -How fast Wendelle Stevens became a "believer"] |
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| Korff on Meier's claims |
[article.php?id=40&sn=1#6 -The amount of contacts] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=1#7 -How Meier took his photos/films] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=1#8 -"Meier saved Jesus from a beating one time"] |
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CHAPTER 2: The Undercover Trip to Switzerland (pp. 45-108) | ||
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| Korff at Meier's farm |
[article.php?id=40&sn=2#1 -Why Korff's "channeling garden"-story is a lie] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=2#2 -Elisabeth Gruber] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=2#3 -The name "Zafiriou"] |
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| The Talmud of Jmmanuel |
[article.php?id=40&sn=2#4 -"The Talmud Immanuel..." ] |
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| Soil samples of landing-tracks |
[article.php?id=40&sn=2#5 -Why Korff lies about having seen landing-tracks] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=2#6 -Why Korff didn't obtain any soil samples of the landing-tracks] |
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CHAPTER 3: Genesis III's "Analyses" of Meier's Photographs (pp. 109-133) | ||
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| Original negatives |
[article.php?id=40&sn=3# -"There are no original negatives in existence"] |
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| Neil Davis' analysis |
[article.php?id=40&sn=3#2 -More than one positive comment in Davis' report] |
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CHAPTER 4: Conclusive Analyses of Billy Meier's "UFO" Photographs (pp. 135-231) | ||
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| Frecht Nature Preserve photos |
[article.php?id=40&sn=4#1 -Wrong total of photos (1)] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#2 -Korff omits Meier's comments relevant to focus discrepancy] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#3 -150 meters is not 162.5 feet] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#4 -Korff omits Meier's comments regarding focus discrepancy in second photo] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#5 -An example of faulty reasoning by Korff] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#6 -Incorrect reference] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#7 -Korff's Fig. 22 doesn't show the whole picture] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#8 -Korff omits Meier's comments regarding suspicious aspects of 4th picture] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#9 -The Unter-Balm Photographs (plural?)] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#10 -Korff's false claim of finding "the exact same spot"] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#11 -Why the interior of the beamship should not necessarily have shown up in photo #41] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#12 -The middle photo on p. 156 shows admitted model] |
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| Fuchsbüel photos (2-27-75) |
[article.php?id=40&sn=4#13 -Other photos of these sequence don't show the suspicious aspects] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#14 -Korff's inconsistent listing of photo numbers] |
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| Jakobsberg-Allenberg photos |
[article.php?id=40&sn=4#15 -Wrong total of photos (2)] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#16 -Why the photos are not double exposures] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#17 -Korff is wrong about the purpose of this photo event.] |
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| Fuchsbüel photos (7-9-75) |
[article.php?id=40&sn=4#18 -Wrong total of photos (3)] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#19 -Why the cloud formations do not necessarily change too fast] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#20 -False claim] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#21 -Korff omits the data which support the "disapearing tree story"] |
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| Bachtelhörni-Unterbachtel photos |
[article.php?id=40&sn=4#22 -Unsupported claims] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#23 -False claim] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#24 -Upward arced "suspension line" in Korff's Fig. 66] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#25 -More problems with Korff's "suspension lines"] |
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| Hasenböl-Langenberg photos |
[article.php?id=40&sn=4#26 -Self-contradictionary statements by Korff] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=4#27 -Another error] |
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CHAPTER 5: Smoking Guns: Analyzing Meier's "Time-Travel" Photographs (pp. 233-271) | ||
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| General remarks by Korff about "Time-Travel" photos |
[article.php?id=40&sn=5#1 -Misleading statement by Korff] |
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-[article.php?id=40&sn=5#2 Not second but first trip] |
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-[article.php?id=40&sn=5#3 No visits to the Pleiades or to alien worlds in DAL Universe] |
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-[article.php?id=40&sn=5#4 Incorrect reference] |
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-[article.php?id=40&sn=5#5 No contradiction] |
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| Venus photos |
[article.php?id=40&sn=5#6 -False reference] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#7 -Another false reference] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#8 -And... another false reference] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#9 -Meier didn't use "special alien photographing device"] |
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| Apollo-Soyuz docking photos |
[article.php?id=40&sn=5#10 -Korff omits Meier's comments regarding curved screen] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#11 -Possible explanation for out-of-focus aspect] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#12 -Meier's time for Apollo-Soyuz link-up is correct] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#13 -Unfounded claim] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#14 -Does Korff's Fig. 94 show the Soyuz in space?] |
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| "DAL Universe cosmonauts" photos |
[article.php?id=40&sn=5#15 -Not Pleidian but DAL spaceship] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#16 -Possible explanation for curved screen] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#17 -Korff ignores info in favor of curtains] |
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| Korff on some of the other "time-travel" photos |
[article.php?id=40&sn=5#18 -Meier didn't photograph Neberian dino's during space trip] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#19 -Meier didn't photograph Neberian cave-man during great space trip] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=5#20 -Don't take "God's Eye" story literally] |
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CHAPTER 6: Analyses of Billy Meier's "Alien" Metal Samples (pp. 273-296) | ||
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| Korff claims Vogel gave him "other half" of unique metal sample in May 1980 and that a new analysis shows it's merely silver soldier |
[article.php?id=40&sn=6#1 -Why Korff never received a piece of the mysterious metal sample] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=6#2 -No analysis by Vogel in "early 1980"] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=6#3 -Why the Olgilvie analysis never took place] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=6#4 -Korff's confusion between thallium and thulium] |
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| Additional points of critique |
[article.php?id=40&sn=6#5 -Example of innuendo by Korff] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=6#6 -Korff copies obvious error from pro-Meier literature] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=6#7 -The Swiss lab was informed of alleged ET origin of sample] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=6#8 -Walker's analysis is mentioned in more than one pro Meier-book] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=6#9 -Korff omits mysterious aspects of metal sample disappearance] |
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CHAPTER 7: Other Meier "Evidence" (pp. 297-310) | ||
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| Korff on the landing-tracks |
[article.php?id=40&sn=7#1 -Korff omits important landing-track data] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#2 -Korff omits testimonies of witnesses who studied landing-tracks] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#3 -Korff omits important characteristics of Pleiadian landing-tracks] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#4 -What Korff's experiment fails to explain] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#5 -Korff's pressboard is too small] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#6 -No swirl in Korff recreation] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#7 -Not all Pleiadian landing-tracks consisted of three circular shaped impressions in the grass] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#8 -Korff omits non-Pleiadian landing-tracks] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#9 -Insect infestation not a characteristic of Pleiadian landing-tracks] |
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| Korff on the UFO witnesses |
[article.php?id=40&sn=7#10 -Korff omits important sources of UFO witness information] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#11 -Korff omits several UFO witnesses] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#12 -Not all UFO witnesses are or were members of Meier's group] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#13 -Not only "blobs of light rising in the night sky"] |
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[article.php?id=40&sn=7#14 -Korff omits the non-UFO witness testimonies] |
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Omission of certain info about Meier's past
On p. 23 Korff writes:
"Later, when he [Billy] was arrested and charged by the police for thievery and forgery, he was ordered to serve six months at the Aarburg correctional facility in the town of Rheinau.”
Critique: In Billy's autobiography contained in the ("Geisteslehre #1"), Billy states the following: "When anywhere a robbery or theft happened, the Police automatically seized me and accused me of the deeds I had never committed... ...I even signed Police reports accusing me of offenses I had not done." None of Meier's personal texts make mention of "forgery" as being one of the charges, and Korff's statement, as is, suggests Meier's guilt.
The evolution of Meier's contact notes
On p. 26 Korff writes:
"What began as a simple series of "contacts," with the first allegedly occuring on January 28, 1975, soon evolved into a much more detailed and elaborate scenario complete with religious overtones."
If one reads the contact notes of the first contact, one can read that a large part of the alleged first conversation with Semjase is about the subject of religion, so contrary to what Korff claims the "religious overtones" were not later introduced in the contact notes.
Error in translation
On p. 28 Korff writes that the translation of Züricher verblüfte Erich von Däniken : Ich filmte Besucher aus dem All" is "Zürich man amazes Erich von Däniken: I filmed Visitors and All".
The correct translation is: "Zürich man amazes Erich von Däniken: I filmed visitors from outer space".
Why the term "cult" is unfounded and misapplied
On p. 29 Korff writes:
"Within the next two years Meier would transform both the farm and his informal metaphysical study group into his own private religious cult, complete with visitor’s parking! As of this writing, the situation remains unchanged, although the members of Billy Meier’s Semjase Silver Star Center (as it is now called) prefer not to think of themselves as a 'religious cult'."
Critique: Defined by Random House's American College Dictionary: "cult n. 1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies. 2. an instance of an almost religious veneration for a person or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: a cult of Napoleon. 3. the object of such devotion. 4. Sociol. a group having an exclusive sacred idealogy and a series of rites centering around their sacred symbols."
F.I.G.U.'s views on their non-affiliation and distancing from any religious, sectarian, sacred and god/Jesus/saint/personage-vernerating ideologies and practices are clearly outlined in their English publications “Our Manifesto” and "FIGU in a Nutshell" in addition to many other texts. Veneration of an extraterrestrial, person, object, obedience-demanding entity or any controlling force is contrary to their tenets and negates their basic principles as the “Free Community of Interests.” Korff’s repetitive labeling of F.I.G.U. as a “cult”, in addition to his overuse of the term “compound” in reference to F.I.G.U.'s Center, is unfounded, misapplied and appears to be an indoctrination tactic.
How fast Wendelle Stevens became a "believer"
On p. 30 Korff writes:
"After spending four days at Meier's farm in Hinterschmidrüti, Stevens became convinced that the experiences of Meier had actually happened, that the disc-shaped craft photographed is really a UFO and that the case is legimate."
Korff refers to pp. 27-28, of Stevens Preliminary Investigation Report. If one reads those pages in Stevens' book, one will see that this statement has been taken out of context by Korff. Stevens didn't arrive at this conclusion after four days of investigating the case, but after 5 years of investigating the case.
The amount of contacts
On p. 37 Korff writes:
"Between January 27, 1975, and August 18, 1991, Meier has had more than seven hundred contacts with aliens, most of which have been with a ‘Pleiadian female cosmonaut’ named Semjase (pronounced sem-YA-see)."
Critique: In an information sheet released by F.I.G.U. in October, 1994, titled "Randolph Winters: New Lies, Misrepresentations, Errors and Intrigues from the USA", Meier states the following about his contact history: "Concerning the contact reports it must be stated that the 115th contact took place on October 19, 1978, and that Billy has since had 174 additional contacts. Of these 174 contacts, 135 were official and the basis for contact reports; 39 were of an unofficial nature and no contact reports were written on them. At this time, late 1994, 250 official contact reports are in evidence." "Seven hundred" may have been incorrectly heard, stated, or mis quoted.
How Meier took his photos/films
On p. 37 Korff writes:
“Meier took his UFO photographs and 8mm films not only with the handicap of having just one arm, but did so by shooting most of them ‘from his right hip’ (since the viewfinder on his camera was broken).”
Critique: Meier did not take his photographs “from his right hip” as stated by Korff, especially the 8mm movie camera used a tripod as support. This is an incorrect statement, whatever the source, since his photographing technique of holding the camera near his face is displayed in the video documentary The Meier Chronicles and the docu drama, Contact. Also, p. 224 of Wendelle Stevens’ UFO... Contact from the Pleiades, A Supplementary Investigation Report, 2nd paragraph states “... and he had to shoot his pictures without aiming and by guess "from the hip" so to speak.” This colloquialism is obviously not meant in the literal sense of "from his right hip."
"Meier saved Jesus from a beating one time"
On p. 38 Korff writes:
"During one of these alleged time-travel adventures, he [Billy] met with Jesus Christ! Meier even saved Jesus from a beating one time. "
Critique: It is documented by Meier that he met with Jmmanuel, a person whose name was changed to “Jesus Christ” by Paul years after the crucifixion. The personage, Jmmanuel, and his teachings, as presented in the book Talmud of Jmmanuel edited by Meier, differ greatly when compared to the historical Jesus portrayed in the New Testament and do not depict him as the “god-like” saviour of mankind that is attributed to him today (see also the book Celestial Teachings by James Deardorff, and his posting "A Refutation of...." herein under the chap. 2 heading.) An actual encounter between Meier and Jmmanuel, viewed in this light, does not seem as extraordinary as Korff makes it out to be, excluding, of course, the actual mechanics of time travel. Korff's statement concerning Meier saving Jmmanuel (Jesus) from a beating was footnoted in his book as originating from Randolph Winters, just as were many other footnotes of Korff's. This easily refutable fabrication is one of many lies distributed by self-proclaimed “Meier representatives” such as Winters. The only "beating" that ever took place during this specific time trip was when, according to the verbatim reports of Asket in 1956, Meier hit a fellow in the nose by the name of "Jitchi" for going into a state of panic during their trek to meet Jmmanuel. It's apparent this blow was not even close to a beating. Meier states the following in his writeup entitled A Truthful Rectification of Lies Based On Half-Truths and Twisted Information, Which Were Presented by Randolph Winters in a Compuserve UFO Forum Conversation on 1-29-95: "Apparently, Winters' fantasies, his twisting of the information, and his inability to assimilate information he has gleaned from Meier's experiences are limitless; ..." It is a well-known and documented fact that Randolph Winters was neither endorsed by Billy or FIGU as being a representative of Meier, nor was he ever "sanctioned" to speak on Meier's behalf. In view of this, Korff's frequent use of Winters' statements cannot be regarded as corresponding to actual facts.
